A closer look over N86 exteriors and hardware

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You must say that I am late to the party to take a trial of Nokia N86, but being with this beast for just a few days, sure make me realized that it was a sin to be lost in amazing world of Nokia N82 only. Its nothing to offend Nokia N82 and its Xenon flash, but sure N86 seems to be a worthy successor for Nokia N82 and amazingly on each ground. Thanks WomWorld/Nokia, I really wanted to get in touch of advanced camera feature before Nokia N8 arrives itself.

Even since the rumors, the focus has been on wide lenses and high megapixels though a closer look over Nokia N86 features really makes you thrilled that how much thoughts were given over the making of Nokia N86.

Nokia N86 was always compared to Nokia N82, even when it was close of being a proper successor of Nokia N95 (dual slider with GPS and 5MP, which once broken new grounds for Nokia and been a longtime success story). It was beautiful to watch how Nokia was learning from experiments like Nokia N96 and Nokia N85 to put itself back on the charge of camera phone fight again, a journey to beat itself for the first spot.


Since I own Nokia N82, so it was more relevant for me to compare it with and to understand that what it got more …

Size and shape: Like Rafe from AAS said, I also would agree that Nokia N86 got just a very different world than the one, which made Nokia N95 form factor a huge success once. After Apple and Google, the market was being dominated with slimmer and touch oriented devices and when there were less of physical buttons, people were asking for slimmer and slimmer devices. Sure, the heavy shape was not that much welcome than it would have been then.

Though it looks opposite, but it was thinner and shorter device than Nokia N82 except extra width to incorporate 2.6” screen.

Nokia N86 dimensions: 103.4 x 51.4 x 16.5 mm, 69 cc
Nokia N82 dimensions: 112 x 50.2 x 17.3 mm, 90 cc

There were many other exterior changes for good like dedicated unlock key, removal of kind of extra gallery key (not needed actually), card slot was pushed under the battery cover and with metal piece covering the body, we got a tiny charging light as well… ye!!!!!!

And who could forget that kickstand that was wonderful when one wanted to enjoy the movie play.

Not only that it was also possible to define some app to be fired when you open kickstand, probably due to the small ‘click’ under the kickstand as shown

Screen: Nokia N86 was probably the second device from Nokia to feature an AMOLED screen (N85 first), when Nokia N82 had only a TFT screen, not only that but it was a 2.6” screen than earlier 2.4” screen of Nokia N82.

Lovely were those brighter colors and even if there were words of poor performance in direct sunlight, for me, it was sure much much better than my Nokia N82 screen. But sure, it wasn’t something comfortably usable under direct sunlight thing.

Keypad: The keypad of Nokia N82 was something unique about that device, I really don’t remember any other with similar keypad. Even if smaller and of more height buttons were annoying to some of people, they were proven to add blind typing much better than anything else in the smart phone world.

In comparison of that, Nokia N86 keys were also a much better improvement from flat keys of Nokia N95, Nokia N96 or Nokia N85. Very very good tactile feedback and amazingly spaced, Nokia N86 were sure a dream for even normal candy bar shaped non-slider devices and it was impressive that how slider was working even after leaving almost no visible spacing.

Speakers and music keys: Specs says the same about both, but I found Nokia N86 seriously louder. Someone asked me that if its louder than Nokia 5800 or Nokia N73 and I said it is. The incoming calls or SMS seriously surprises people with a loud tone, when you are with a Nokia N86.

Though its not the same with the loudspeakers. I tried to took some calls on loudspeakers and it was sure not that louder than even cheaper Nokia phones might have been. Music is enough loud, but not sure if that is reaching as high as people told me about Nokia N95, but for me, its louder than Nokia N82 for super sure.

Scratch resistant: The word was attractive to me, but I got disappointed when seen the scratches on my trial Nokia N86 on very first day. Hold your breaths, its not against the claims, but actually was the lamination on the screen that got the scratch, not the screen itself nor the other parts (lower parts around navigation keys, call, end call buttons also have a the same scratch glass surface as screen). Sure a must thing for any mobile you going to purchase.

I am not removing the lamination as its a trial device, but sure could assure that its pretty strong thing when it comes to resist scratches.

Internal build and back cover: I must say, I am hugely disappointed with the back covers that take much scary physical pressure to open them. I mean its plastic and you place a mechanism that need pressure and nails? It will break, may be not today, not in few months, but its always susceptible for the same and its not a good thing.

Though what’s likeable  is the camera cover that is sure a good improvement than Nokia N82. A metal slider (plastic beneath) that slides over a glass surface, smooth, light and protective. Something like people even wishing in Nokia N8.

When we dig more deeper then there are two things, one that I like and one I hate. What is like is battery is loose and easy to remove and what I don’t like is SIM slot is something like those Blackberry models that needs you to slide in the SIM card, sure prone to scratches and ultimately destroying the SIM, if you have habit of changing the SIM frequently.

But there is something that I am still wondering about what that might be. May be readers will suggest something. There are two metal points just in side of SIM slot that seems to be pushed by the back cover, may be some way to tell the phone that battery cover is open or close. But the question is where this thing is being utilized in software?

Processor, RAM, Internal Memory and Card: This must have been one of the fastest processor in non-touch, when it was released. An ARM 11 343 Mhz processor, which was same with Nokia N97 and N97 mini, sure does an impressive job, specially with the camera itself.

RAM is on the same point with 128 MB, which has been considered adequate since long until touch screen and whole new world of heavy apps arrived.

Interesting was to see that even if it has 8 GB internal memory, the C: drive or the phone memory itself seems to be going lower than Nokia N82 (last snapshot). Strange!! Isn’t it? Though one could not expect every device to have application memory as high as 1 GB, but still less than N82? I must say Nokia N82 showing an impressive 81 MB free, while just 54 MB in case of Nokia N86. Haven’t seen any performance issue or memory full till now but …

The biggest missing thing been 3D Graphics HW Accelerator that Nokia forgotten after Nokia N82. Really Nokia was some extra generous, when making Nokia N82. Has the same guy sacked out from Nokia?

GPS Unit: You would be surprised that Nokia N86 is probably one the very few lucky ones (in fact the last one) among S60 3rd version to receive life time free ovi map navigation (Ovi Maps 3.03 here). Not sure why, but I find the GPS performing lesser than Nokia E52 in low signal areas, while in open both perform similar. I found it similar to GPS of N97 Mini or Nokia E72 as it was locking in half a second when I was trying tweets from Gravity from a cold start and that too over edge connection, not over 3G connection.

FM Transmitter: A thing that I came to know about only when was with Nokia N900 and still wonder that why Nokia doesn’t implement a way that you might enjoy the music while transmitting it … Use cases are infinite. I was happy to feel it again with Nokia N86, think you are in hostel and could broadcast your channel on daily basis or exciting things like that.

Camera: I am talking in last, making it short, but it doesn’t mean that camera is one of the features of Nokia N86, its the whole N86. Superbly quick camera and turnaround time, inbuilt geo-tagging, fine tuned and more intuitive panorama mode now, macro shots now more closer and sharper and not to forget variable aperture that’s changing the entire game about colors and low light performance.

Is it hard for you to spot the differences between the four pics above? Two are from Nokia N82 with Xenon Flash and two with Nokia N86 with dual leds. No prizes for guessing…

Though front camera is crap like always.. just VGA. Hope Nokia will read someday that Facetime and video calling like things might need a better camera at par with the growing data speeds on Smart phones now days.


Well! I was thinking to finish it in one shot, covering camera and software details, but its sure a big task to cover the tiny details and will be also boring for readers if the post goes around 5-6 pages. So though to take a break here. Will be back with the words over Nokia N86 camera and improvements it got from Nokia N82 (Sure the most exciting part as it was not easy to win a Nokia N82 fan) and then finally the software tweaks like new home screen (people might not notice the change initially).

So, keep tuned in, if wanna know more about Nokia N86 and sure send the suggestions in my way that what you wish to see in my posts more.

Unboxing Nokia N86

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Like Apple fanboys, there always been many Nokia N82 fanboys all around the globe, those who never given up over this device and same keeping the legend alive even after three years when people have completely forgotten that how first iPhone was. Living three years straight and still roaring to continue the journey that could be only some brave heart, that was our beloved Nokia N82.

Collecting fanboys all around the world, with Nokia N82, all of sudden, Nokia, who always liked to challenge its own device with new variations, found itself against its own device as ‘a rival’ that seemed to be invincible to get challenged. Was hard to challenge the legacy of Nokia N82, but Nokia given a try with Nokia N86 with high pixels and so many other features. Before getting hands on Nokia N8, I thought to just get familiar with evolutions of camera technology with a new trial from WomWorld/Nokia, a successor of the legacy, Nokia N86 and ….. I was not knowing that this going to surprise me this much.

Lets see… Layman’s un-boxing today and some boring blah blah…

After a long wait after requesting a Nokia N86 from Katie, finally yesterday was the day, when that DHL guy arrived at the gate of my office. I am sure that he and my office colleague might have started to think that I am some kind of import/ export guy or smuggler 😉

That’s a tough thing to be a office person. You get a trial device delivered and you know that out of all excitement, you wont get time to open it before the late eve, when you reach home. But, thanks to WomWorld and my office routines, I feel myself much patient person now 😉


 

The package: The package shouts camera first even if Nokia N86 now have free ovi navigation as well. All around the name was mentioned as Nokia N86 8MP, sure the first new thing in comparison of Nokia N82 package.

The strange thing was the mention of N-Gage as I didn’t found any N-Gage game icon in the phone, while it was there in my Nokia N82 as well. Is the free game offer with Nokia N86 discontinued? Not sure!! Will try to look into it.


The contents inside the package: A slimmer box than Nokia 5800, Nokia N86 comes with all the usual accessories, we have been familiar over the years except two possible missing components; TV-Out cable and might have been important traditional to USB power converter (it has a mini-USB port for charging).

But there was one thing, I was most happy about … it was the first time, I was trialing a pure white device (I wished to have hands on while Nokia E72 in past). What is beauty to watch …

Matching white stereo headphones and upgraded battery 1200 mAh (in comparison of N82) sure going to be treat to me 🙂


Specs: If you start comparing on specs sheet, then you will find that Nokia N86 wasn’t only ahead of Nokia N82 on megapixels, but there were many new things in this worthy successor.

Connectivity

GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 – American version

Size

103.4 x 51.4 x 16.5 mm, 69 cc

Weight

149 g

Display

AMOLED, 16M colors
240 x 320 pixels, 2.6 inches
– Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
– Scratch-resistant surface

Speakers

Yes, with stereo speakers
– 3.5 mm audio jack
– Dedicated music/gallery keys

Storage

8 GB storage Internal , 128 MB RAM

Card slot

microSD, up to 16GB

Data

GPRS Class 32
EDGE Class 32, 296/ 177.6 kbits
3G HSPDA, 3.6 mbps
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g, UPnP technology

Bluetooth

v2.0 with A2DP

USB

v2.0 MicroUSB

Camera

8 MP, 3264×2448 pixels, wide 28mm Carl Zeiss lens, autofocus, dual LED flash
Variable aperture, geotagging, ISO 800
Video VGA@30fps
Secondary Camera VGA videocall camera

OS

Symbian OS v9.3, S60 rel. 3.2

CPU

ARM 11 434 MHz processor

Radio

Stereo FM radio with RDS; FM transmitter

GPS

A-GPS Support, Ovi Maps 3.03

Others

– Dual slide design
– Digital compass
– WMV/RV/MP4/3GP video player
– MP3/WMA/WAV/RA/AAC/M4A music player
– Document viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
– Voice memo
– Kickstand
– Flash Lite 3.1
– TV-out

Battery

Standard battery, Li-Ion 1200 mAh (BL-5K)
Standby Up to 312 h (2G) / 264 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 6 h 18 min (2G) / 3 h 54 min (3G)
Music Play Up to 25 h


Build: Complaints first …

Call it raised expectations due to E72 and N97mini like premium devices, but now I have started expecting more metal in Nokia devices. So, it was disappointing to see a hard to open plastic back.

The other complaint was from the SIM slot. The mechanism of inserting and removing SIM seems prone to scratching SIM due to pure mechanical nature. I was really more happy, if they would have placed the similar tray mechanism as was in Nokia N97mini or even slot mechanism like Nokia N82.

The good points ….

First is the beauty

 

Though it feel almost the same bulky as was Nokia N82, but addition of kick stand was a fantastic decision and same was the metallic border.

 

Same way, I think that the new keypad design was to answer the complaint of tiny keys in Nokia N82 (but I loved that design) and dedicated music keys were sure a wish granted people demanding for the same in Nokia N82.

No pen key as its already discontinued withy almost all Nokia phones, but notifications lights on Menu key and a tiny charging light was absolutely making the design ticking all boxes.

The placement of Memory card is under the back cover seems fine, because for inserting/ removing card, you wont be needed to remove battery and also protects from dust etc.

Same way, we find a smooth and improved camera cover with Nokia N86 here


Nokia N82 and Nokia N86

Leave the build and superb camera a side, geo-tagging and FM-transmitter are something that making me excited enough. It looks like Nokia was thinking to remove all the complaints from Nokia N82, when they made Nokia N86.

Though processor and RAM specs are the same, but we got a huge 8GB internal storage than 100 mb internal storage of Nokia N82. With upgraded OS, option of geo-tagging, complaint of dedicated music keys, metal casing, better camera cover mechanism and addition of un-lock button in side.

What I liked after starting the device was the screen saver… well I am sure that there might be a screen saver like this for Nokia N82 as well, but where you will get an Amoled Screen like Nokia N86. I agree with all the talks that might be going around super amoled and all. It rocks.

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I also placed both the devices into a macro test and below were the result. Guess yourself that which one is of Nokia N86 and which one is of Nokia N82?

 

Any differences here?


Though one thing that made me worried was scratches over the lamination of screen. If it was my own device then I should have changed the lamination, but now I have to live with it in next two weeks. Again mind asking the same question, how safe the big screen touch device are from such scratches??

So, this was it … there gonna be many talks around this new member of the family, keep tuned in and guide your questions/ suggestions in my way. What I should do more with Nokia N86?

Welcome Nokia N86 in Layman’s house

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Yes! finally Nokia N86 got delivered to me like past device, straight in 48 hours.

First time, we really find the DHL guy as God, but when he comes again after 15 days? Yeah felt the same again after the quick un-boxing, when seen this … Return documents

It was just two days back, when they announced that I didn’t made it to Nokia N97 Mini. Yes! I tried to make me understand that I didn’t deserved this time, but it was hard, very hard that …… will not count on some competition again. #NokiaDATE Anyway, I should cheer up, I have 15 days … dammmn you DATE.


For the first time, I have got a white beauty

Oh Sorry!! Princess is feeling little shy … take the view again …

Its just a preview post. Un-boxing pics with details will follow soon.

So… what’s more?? She is eager to tell everything you want to know about it, wont you ask?

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Nokia N8 finally seems to be on schedule

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Started with @Sirajsoft words and twitpic (given below), my timeline seemed to be buzzing about Nokia N8 release date all day long and what seems to be spinning out in the air was something we were waiting since long … Nokia N8 finally seems to be on schedule. Yes!! the worldwide release will include India as well and its all set to be released in first week of September 2010.

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There were words that some site claiming that it would be available within 4 weeks, if you order it now, but that seemed a fake as there are no official words from Nokia and anything such should come from Nokia officials first and four weeks?? Sounds too good to be true.

All of Indian bloggers started flooding Official Nokia sources like @NokiaIndia and finally we got something that we could call the official words ….

N8 Launch

Though pushing more over price point, they were in No Comments mode and replied ..

N8Launch 


So, officially we could say that Nokia N8 coming to India in first week September (that would be before my birthday September 23), though there are no official words over price, but its seems to be something around or little more than ` 24, 000 (otherwise, they would have commented over price for sure) and probably lesser than ` 27, 000.

Well!! that also make things more interesting about some other things like price of Nokia N900. In the same way, we are expecting a price drop for Nokia 5800 after launch of Nokia X6 8Gb, we should be expecting a price drop for Nokia N900 as well. That sure gonna make the confusion more interesting, what if Nokia N900 like open device on offer for ` 20, 000 ?

What you think?

Netbook and Nokia N900 when Nokia N8 is coming

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The most perfect words about Nokia N900 that I came to read very long back,

The people behind it, you know those other guys in that other building, are probably a bunch of geeks with a sense of mission. Somehow, someone at Nokia stole a prototype from their lab and decided to slap a N Series logo and a number “900” on it and actually released it to the mainstream. Those lab guys don’t even make phones. They make internet tablets. They have nothing to do with big old Symbian. They have their own open source based OS called Maemo (pronounce My Mo). – via 360east.com

Beautiful and very accurate were the words and struck right there with me and … we seen more and more words being told about this beast, many stories, many myths broken, every day a new idea, every night a new invention, whenever you run of reasons that why should you buy a N900 adding up a few limitations from here and there, another morning wakes you up telling that every other day of N900 is another reason to talk about Nokia N900.


We all know that something such big as Nokia N8 is coming, we all keep on hearing that what new things that would be able to do, we all know that there will be an all time best camera phone in hands of you all, but still sometimes I think that why is my post about N900 vs N8 still topping in blog stats? Why WomWorld still has more posts over Nokia N900 than anything else?

 

May be I thought to post it much earlier, may be it was something else in my mind that I thought to give few words, but the credit is for sure of Inspect-A-Gadget’s post, where he discards Nokia N900 a viable alternative to Netbook. I am really feeling like pushed to say something … really something


Why Nokia N900 competes well with a Netbook?

First of all, why we needed a Netbook?

Compact size? More easy to carry? You are always online in the way you wanted. You could check on emails, you posts and surf blogs, you share pics, you make even occasional edits via its inbuilt tools, make sketches, music and whatever you like to do in moments, you sneak out a few moments.

You are in a conference but you do not need a table to put anything like others (at least 10” I guess) and still you are on …. in each step with others with your just 3.5” device … you are not typing like others might be, but you are making occasional touch gestures and sometimes your fingers racing on small but perfect keypad of your Nokia N900. Sounds gracious na?

 

Some argue that its limited by it caliber and a full fledge windows is something that a Maemo wont do ever. But tell me, do you really wanna do some photo shopping on the go? Or Studio like FX-Effects? But does a Windows 7 Starter with probably 1GB RAM at most serves the purpose for some photo shopping or movie editing? Does Windows Starter really work that way or if we choose any other operating system or do some Photo shopping, then does Netbooks really provide you those acclaimed 8 hours?

I know Zahib doesn’t actually meant that and still many more examples could be given and I always pointed that it was kind of natural right for Nokia N900 to opt for a 1500 mAh battery.. but still think about trade offs of carrying a device exclusively with you for purpose or having something that is always with you.

Think you are going to a family wedding and made promises with family that no more office chik chik, no more sneaking into those laptops. Will you really explain your granny that its a Netbook not laptop? Will you carry a Netbook to the wedding place? Really? But you could stand tall with Nokia N900. You will say its a phone dude and the coolest one, you might have seen around. While you all might be waiting for this function to be over and by morning, you will all be uploading pics to facebook, blogs etc… hey hold it there.. I am already done, while I was taking drinks with you. Get a look on my page.

And inside you say… sigh!!! thanks God, I didn’t missed that mail and replied too with collected facts from some googling. That’s all when you weren’t thinking that you will be needed to do something like that here in the wedding.

Believe me, its Nokia N900 that you wanted, not some Netbook that screams that I am underpowered and even if small, no one can figure me out much different from a traditional Laptop…. damnn man!! you cant even carry a iPad everywhere with you, sure not in your pocket.

For me, its never a question that if Nokia N900 can serve as a Netbook, but the question is what a Netbook serves? A sense of limits whenever you think of doing something serious and a sense of burden, when you thought you going to carry light? Are Netbooks going to be pagers of past or will they fight with Notebooks more than mobiles of today?


Nokia N8 and Nokia N900

You see some iMorons all around looking for reasons to eat another iCrap, because web seems to be echoing about that, because that’s probably most well marketed thing in the world.

But why you are finding reasons to choose Nokia N900 over Nokia N8, when no one seems to be marketing things that way? Why you feel that Nokia N8 will do many new things, but still think that there seems to be no limit that you will do with Nokia N900.

Well!! I am confused, totally confused and I know you all are … at least many of you really are. I know coz I see search terms like N8 Vs N900 hitting my blog without missing a day. I know because I still think that when someone said the lines below, then it wasn’t Nokia N8, but Nokia N900 in the mind ….

Its not the technology, but its what you do with it.

Current price as ` 24, 500, while Nokia N8 scaring with quotes like 600$  or ` 30, 000 and that too when it will make it to India (not before in September 2010 and if it went like Nokia loves to do with India then …. ). I bet, the wait isn’t pretty easier for you and there are reasons to think once again … its a complete touch device, when it comes to Nokia N8, are you all for that?

What’s currently not right with with Nokia N900?

Due to more attention to Intel-Nokia MeeGo, focus was very early moved from Nokia N900 than it should have. We still get just a basic Ovi Maps over a top-notch A-GPS unit and no Google Maps here due to lack of Java Support. Honestly speaking… that annoy… annoy big time, when we already were somehow compromising without Gravity (even Android, Apple, BB users doing, so not that much complaining).

Nokia N900 shouldn’t be a step child to Nokia, it has rights to get cared of and sure rights to get promised for update option to MeeGo.


One day, I hear that Nokia N900 received some update an could do portraits as efficient as other things, another day, I hear that there is something that could make your Nokia N900 a remote control of your TV via its IR port, another day, hermes integrates contacts with Gmail, Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, Yahoo, Skype, MSN, Ovi or whatever you think, another day you get Fcam libraries got released, another day… … story moves on.

You cry that why you were so naive, when Paul wrote you for giving an Nokia N900 for trial? Why you were so lost in Alice‘s Wonderland of magic that forgot that its just 14 days? Why you think that you would have been doing much much more with the N900 than you actually did? Why you think that if there was a time machine that could have been taken you back to the time, when Nokia N900 was in your hands and then pauses the time right there.

Why do you wish that may be someday Paul or Katie may be extra generous to you for sending an N900 this way again or some NokiaIndia or WomWorldIndia (?) or Blogger’s Mind or anything such think of pouring some love over you again? Yes! a dream chase … I do wanna get a second chance with my EX… a second chance to rectify my mistakes that I didn’t given her the treatment, she deserved … 15 days were so little for someone, who got a first trial device, when it was a N900.

Is it DATE? #NokiaDate?

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@WomworldNokia #NokiaDATE My Ex-Phones

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It’s always hard to remember the moments with your ex-dates, sometimes your mistakes, sometimes the situations and sometimes … you still don’t understand that what went wrong. Remembering the dates with an EX in past … even the idea … make you go blank.

DealingWithHeartbreak Obviously, I am not going to talk about girls, which could have been an impossible job for sure. This post has reference with the WomWorld/Nokia initiative in welfare of DATE Sufferers.

For we phone foodies, our devices have been sometimes even more prior to girls and this sure has been one of the most consistent reasons behind those fights with our girls. So, may be this phenomenon is recently named by WomWorld/Nokia as DATE, we discovered and suffered with it since much earlier 😦


First let’s see how Womworld/Nokia describe it and what’s this new initiative #NokiaDATE is all about…. their words … live from their post

If you’ve suffered from DATE, do not panic… you are not alone. In fact, our discovery means that this phenomenon is now recognized as an official medical condition:

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After
Trial
Experience
Our research also shows that this affliction is becoming increasingly prevalent.

Why is it getting worse?
Because the WOMWorld/Nokia trial programme has been steadily growing across the globe in recent years. This is, of course, great news… but it does mean the spread of DATE is likely to widen. To try and combat this inevitable consequence, we’re putting together a cure for the very biggest DATE sufferer out there.

How?
We’re offering the chance to WIN one of our ex trial N97 mini devices – and will award this device to whoever needs it most.

Is that you?
Things to look out for:
• An aversion to DHL delivery men
• Ghost handset syndrome (playing with a non-existent Nokia)
• Day dreaming about your past Nokia devices
• Unboxing EVERYTHING (and uploading the videos afterwards)
• Pretending you’re tweeting from brand new devices (ie: OMG! This N8 is AMAZING!)

You can submit your entries either by posting a written story, making a video or simply uploading a photo of you and your worst DATE experiences, and tag everything #NokiaDATE

You have until Monday August 2nd to enter.
So… Good luck DATE sufferers. We know this could rekindle some painful memories.
Just think of the closure.


Why I am a big time DATE Sufferer?

  • Yes! I too wait for DHL delivery men and who better know it more than WomWorld people that I keep on checking over DHL tracking links not even when they come to me but even when they go back. Albertine may tell you better 😉

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  • Yes! We all know that before getting a DHL parcel, we will get an email from our 21st Century Santas Paul and Katie, but still we wish that sometimes they may surprise us like they did once with me. I really has said this to @WomWorldNokia that you people have got us all spoiled now.
  • Ghost Handset Syndrome… Yes! I feel myself playing with N9 or E7 whatever … and sometimes even tablets like iPad running a glossy and our superb fast Maemo (I am saying Maemo). I really feel it doesn’t matter to me, if there is Multi-touch or not till its super silky and real productive like Nokia N900. Yeah!! you called it Ghost handset syndrome, we know that nothing such exists and may be never, but still dreams are dreams.. we wish if we were working for Nokia and were allowed to design one … sigh!!!
  • Day dreaming … perhaps WomWorld/Nokia made this word non-existent. Who believed that someday one will write a mail to him that we could send you a 500$ – 600$ dream device for trialing? It was a real day dream to me when Paul wrote me for first time. I swear I didn’t believed, even when he sent me the trial agreement, I was saying to my friend, is this can be real? Still we feel that its some Inception kind of world, where WomWorld/ Nokia is playing Leonardo DiCaprio. Is it what you call Day dream?

  • Un-boxing, a word, I come to know via Womworld posts only. Once I almost went to post about un-boxing my new stylish Helmet, only to hold it later on, thinking that a pics on postureous would do the deal. I really wish that if I was doing un-boxing posts since I was in class 10. May be we will be filming our children’s birth very soon.. saying … oops 
  • Pretending… There was a line in some movie that if we don’t get a girl, then we fake it among our friends like telling them she said this, she said that.. we know its wrong and we stop saying once get more serious into it, but still… when you desperately wants something and see everyone else is getting the same, then you find yourself without any choice than talking so confidently about the unseen devices in a way that other may think that you got a hold on it. Special kudos!! to WomWorld to find this symptom as it was the most hard syndrome to be found.
  • One more syndrome, which WomWorld missed to mention is Syndrome of togetherness with Nokia. All of sudden, we feel like that its our right to say on things like, how Nokia should do this or how they should have done that. We say because we know that each word get heard, each and every buzz … even if most random, even if from the most tiny guy … it doesn’t matter what we are, it doesn’t matter, what we contributed or could contribute in growth of Nokia, but still we feel close that they feel us as family members.
     
    Being aware of each and everything being said about you is hard, but making the world believing that “you are aware of each tiny thing and will be aware if you say something however small”, is something the world is learning from WomWorld and Nokia today. Hats off you guys … sometimes I think that I will be proud if one of my future son (I am unmarried till now 😉 ) shows me an offer letter from 1000heads or Womworld. That’s what Connecting people is all about, not just renaming some existing technology.

 

Yes!! I said it… I am the DATE Sufferer and I am the worst of them. It already a long post now, but still when started then can’t hold me back to write about my past “dates” and yes!! they include few Non-Nokia as well.

 


My First ever Phone: My first job, when I was in my third semesters of my course, joined as a hobby that time and while LG-RD2130-925044115s all of my salary was kind of bonus to me, the first purchase of my life with my own money was my first phone LG Moonlight from Reliance.

It was sleek, it was simple, but prime reason of purchase was “It was a reliance, a CDMA”. CDMA was new hope was internet savvy people in those times. EDGE wasn’t that big heard of, neither Data plans were that nice to you. A 3.6 k INR device with nominal charges for internet once you connect it to your PC was the perfect deal, for we newbie .

Here I missed Nokia badly, the handset came without a data cable and unique charger means I wasn’t able to charge it in my college or workplace, if my charger wasn’t with me as most of the people were then with Nokia and even now they are…

It was cool.. as I was able to watch News items videos like Aajtak on my handset itself, even if that was not colored. (Hoping to bring back better days with Nokia N8 webTV) I was happy and was waiting to find time that when I will go market to buy a Data Cable and will be able to access internet on my PC.

And then …

END was the worse part, when I lost it within a month, when going to market with some friends for puncture repair of my bicycle. Once I realized, we all running here and there and searching for the same, but …..

So, I lost my first phone just in few weeks after buying it and without using it once for the purpose I bought it.


My Second Phone: Like usually happens, 253px-Nokia_3310_blueafter a loss, you don’t usually go for buying a big phone. You just find whatever available, even if a second hand phone. I got a second hand Nokia 3310, which was known as most reliable those days and if I remember it right, then it cost me a 1.5 k INR then. Not a bad deal, but a DATE Sufferer …

That set was sure something… been with me for six-seven month and I can’t tell you that how badly treated that one was… got accidently thrown at times… once it was hanging via string hooked in my pocket and was hitting the roads almost for 1km and numerous times, it got its part disassembled by dropping.. keypad a side, battery a side, back cover a side … but the most loyal device was never a let down. I didn’t even lost the screen.

I could bet over one thing that there would be no one of my age in India, who never seen this particular set with someone of his family or anyone else near him. That’s been a legend since long.

This was my second phone and I didn’t lost it, but it was to go one day once I get some good looking. I given it to dad, who was not that mobile savvy that time.


My Third Phone: I admit, in early days, I wasn’t very aware of tech developments and things… it was samsung_sgh-e330_add_39  probably show off, when I fall for affection toward flap mobiles. First salary of my second job and I bought a Samsung SGH E330 in 9.5 k INR, can you believe it? I regret that decision to fall for beauty over the real things even now.

Yes!! it got killer looks for that time and was a great show off, when someone calls you and you get a picture of him/ her in front screen… it was handy, when you wanted to snap yourself with the only camera in the device and due to double screens, you were assured that you wont miss the right position. It was worth a company.

But still when we talk about features, then it was bad about Internet and other things, which I can’t even think of living about now, neither of that good reception as we almost take as granted with Nokia devices, neither FM or internal storage.. nothing. This was the device, who made me think that a Flap device can never be stable, neither the sliding ones as I was to send it for repair on cost twice and its still with me in a non working condition (display not working)..

This was my third phone and I still carrying the same but in dead form, in hopes if I find time and extra money then will get it repaired to keep it as toy for children at least. But each time display cost me 1.5k INR at least. Its dead without hopes.


My Fourth Phone: It was my first job in New Delhi (I am still with the same company), when I finally Nokia N70decided that I need a feature rich phone. A phone that might be having an pure official looks, should support mails, should have FM (every office going get addicted of hearing FM in office cabs), a good camera and decent mass memory and perfect integration with your personal computer that you could transfer contacts/ songs and could backup SMS etc.

A front camera was bonus to me, though that time, neither there was UMTS network in India nor I was that much in Smartphones. It was my first Smartphone after all.

This is where Nokia comes, they offer phones for each range. People may argue that why I didn’t bought a Nokia N95 or even N73 at least, but one may not be always in condition of spending more than his budget. Nokia N70 was my compromise for saving few thousands, but I never regretted that.

The end of the story was a complete strange incident, when there was a theft in my room, while me and my room partner were sleeping in the very same room. We lost two mobiles one was XpressMusic of room partner and my Nokia N7. We lodged the complaint with Police, but still it always remained a mystery that how someone was able to steal it while we were asleep just two feet away.

The journey got an abrupt ending.


My Fifth phone: It was my brave but best decision so far, to buy a Nokia N82. The price then was around n82_black19k INR and everyone was saying that its stupidity to go for a mobile of this much price, when you just lost one. No one seemed to be caring for 3G in those times and for others it was just another 5MP camera. It was hard to justify in front of mango people that why I am buying such a pricy phone, while its just a T9, non-touch phone …

But as we all know now that it became such a legend now that nothing seemed to push it down from its royal place even till now. Will see when N8 arrive, but it was the king and is the king. Some said that its keypad is different, but this difference came as good to me as the way, it works, nothing worked better for me before or later. I still using its 3G as my only way to connect my PC to web and downloading of files in GBs with 200+ kbps over MTNL 3G … it does everything what I wanted.. that’s why its priceless ever.

What a joy ride it was with Nokia N82 … I snapped few hundreds of snaps with Nokia N70, but with Nokia N82, it effortlessly got converted to thousands (more than 6, 000 so far and still continued). It was integral part of office routines, when I was to take snaps of figures or text sometimes to use it later (like product keys or serial numbers). One will say a mobile camera less capable only if he never seen a Nokia N82.

Show is on even now…. and I could bet people will still carry Nokia N82 with them, when N8 will be on other side. This DATE is my better half …


My Sixth Phone: Nokia N82 nokia-5310-xpressmusicalways been the best, but it seen some terrible time too. I got it water damaged in a heavy rain. It was still working, but I lost loud speaker and more painful was to loose Xenon flash. I was to get it repaired…. get it repaired at any cost, but what was holding me, the fact that it was my only way to connect the internet (I was using Idea EDGE connection then). How could I have been without internet at home for even a day?

I was to take a decision, I was to buy a device with excellent battery, excellent music, with a slim looks and which could keep my internet experience continued … my decision could have been better, if there was some C5 kind of device in that time, but Nokia 5310 XpressMusic finally became my choice in around 8K INR.

XpressMusic with S40 was a unique initiative from Nokia and it got many loving even this limited OS. It targeted specially Music loving/ SMS crazy people and it worked like a charm. Music play back of 24 Hours + been the selling point of XpressMusic series and intuitive interfaces for SMSing been something, I wished to be part of S60 devices as well.

This one proven itself as a worthy companion always, though I was not satisfied with its camera performance, but I was coming from an age of Nokia N82, which phone in the world could have ever satisfied me again?

The DATE ended, when finally I decided to give this phone to mom as gift on her birthday. I am mean na, giving an old phone to her?? but she never wanted a high end phone and this was an excellent replacement.


My Seventh Phone: After many thoughts, I finally made the decision to buy the first touch phone and my words were “Finally bought a Touch Screen all of a sudden, when there was no prior plan for buying the same.nokia-5800-black When people says touch phone get instant connect in start then it was very true as it was the first phone, I wrote a review about and that was the first step from where the journey with WomWorld started.

The main reasons behind buying were the feeling of world wide rage of touch phones in such a low price point that too with 3G, wifi, GPS and 8GB mass memory. I saved around 6 full movies inside it, probably that was the main attraction of a big screen. Probably for the first time, I became a regular surfer of mobile web, while I was sure using my Nokia N82 for surfing, when in need like at some interview point or when encountered some query all of sudden.

Touch was another world and my post expressed the views in bold, when I reckoned that its some iPhone for mass, but still with passing of days, I understood that I was using it as secondary phone, not the main on for calling purpose. I mean everything was perfect with it, but may be being non-touch since ever and suddenly an all new world.. it was to take its own curve if I was left with only this one… but I was not…

The DATE ended most tragically, when I lost my Nokia 5800. That day I was little ill and while driving to office, I felt like fainting, taken a corner of road from bike and when moved further after a while, then probably I dropped my cell right there… it was crazy.. I struggled hard.. tried ways.. but it was gone.. the person who took it, was desperate to keep it and why wouldn’t he

Like my first non-touch phone, the journey with the very first touch phone was very short.. was this a coincidence?


My Eight Phone: I already mentioned that it was my article over Nokia 5800 that made WomWorld/Nokia aware of my nokia-n900-qwerty-keyboard existence and though it might make many envy, my journey was started with the almighty Nokia N900 itself… the very first trial from WomWorld. People who was in same gang like me, could understand that what’s this feeling when from some part of the world, all of sudden one sends you a device for first time and you get spoiled for ever with greed for more and more….

The journey was out of the world and I still feel that it was all dream like Inception. It arrived right there, when I was just entering into Touch Phone world and instantly I was one of the geeks talking about each and everything of phones. It was their best shot and they won me without any more effort.

The timing was more perfect that I was to go on a rare visit of my home town for straight five days. Rare coz in working life, you get such long leaves only once in one two years and such a visit with the most advanced device in the world… you just can’t feel what was the experience, what was the pride and what was that when I felt that why one needs a Laptop with him in some 8 hour long journey.

Days were 15 and when you get a device like Nokia N900 then even 15 months wont count for much. It was like Nokia E72 of touch phones or Nokia N82 of Camera phones that will never loose its relevance, no matter how much time may get passed.  I always knew that this has to go, was preparing self. Each day was scary coz it was passing.. I even asked Paul, if by any chance they could offer me some used Nokia N900 for some less like 20-22k.. one could easily understand my desperateness… even 20-22k could have been much for me to afford just then when I lost Nokia 5800, but it was a Nokia N900.

I don’t what to call this journey..Maemo and QWERTY of N900 with best ever resistive touch was nothing less than soul mate and loosing it was like something that could never be recovered again. It was an EX that still haunts me in nights even if Nokia N8 tries to enter the dreams.


My Ninth Phone: My friend knows that how were eyes of mine, when I was used to take over looks of Nokia n97minimain_thumb N97 from windows of shops. It was too much of affection to handle for me and it was too bad of WomWorld that they killed it from the top by giving me Nokia N900 as the first device. May be it was only memories of Nokia N900 that I tried to fill it by Nokia N97 Mini, my second trial from WomWorld.

I was sure that even after the high experience of touch with Nokia N900, this new beast wasn’t going to disappoint me as I was getting first Touch QWERTY with Google Maps and Ovi Maps. Why I was obsessive for Google Maps?? The moment, I lost Nokia 5800, my first step was to check my Google Latitude history to see that where the person with my cell might be right now. I was huge frustrated when I took a while to figure out to find that how to search that on web as there was no support of java in Maemo and so no for Google Maps. Using Google Maps, Google buzz, gravity and Nokia Messaging over such a big screen with QWERTY was something I wished was true for Nokia N900 as well.

Everyone says that Nokia N97 Mini was something, which people wished that Nokia N97 could have been. People missed the size of 3.5” for sure. The appropriate amount of RAM, appropriate processor, perfect QWERTY .. it was everything..

At one point, I wished if I was able to install Maemo over it, but still Nokia N97 did all for me otherwise it was hard to win someone back after touching Nokia N900. There were live experiences of Ovi Map navigation, when I utilized the big screen Maps for reaching to some completely unknown location in Gurgoan and I didn’t missed the route for once.

Even if N900 was god, N97 Mini was something I completely enjoyed even in my hectic schedules in that particular time. It was a perfect DATE, when I was more prepared for what should I expect and what I should do.


My Tenth Phone: After trialing big screens like N900 and N97 mini, probably, it was time to discover that 03052010165_thumb what connects my practical needs more than the style. A device like N900 or N97 Mini was cool for students or may be blogger, but people like me doing to dirty works like interacting with hundreds of issues on daily basis in person or over calls… somehow it was unreal that N97 Mini or N900 will serve as a full time calling device.

Nokia E72 with Nokia BH-905 was my third trial device from WomWorld and probably the one, which I used like my own for full 15 days. It was a full time device to me in every sense, a full time fast speed 3G modem that went through 26 GB data usage in just 14 days. That was some heavy duty thing… real thing …

Still when I look for buying a device, when Nokia N900 reminds me its existence like some magnet and Nokia N8 says that how could you think of anything else, Nokia E72 still pops up saying that think what you used thoroughly in real practical sense.

Perhaps Nokia E72 was all around answer for Business World going gaga over Black Berry services. This was some device that will get all my votes when someone asks me that which device to buy.

The trial was extended for a few days due to delay from DHL and so were the downloads from the device. It doesn’t stand very far from reality when someone says to me that look like I have settled my mind for buying a Nokia E72.


My Eleventh Phone: The occasion was the birthday of my youngest brother, who was to join his first job in e52 next few months and the gift I chosen to buy was the workaholic E52 as it was delivering the same E72 experience in a budget price. A superb experience it was for my brother as he had no prior preference for QWERTY only. He was happy with the T9 itself and I was happy that I was giving him something that he will always cherish due to the power beneath the sleek and super solid build.

Have you ever passed through a situation that you bought something for gifting it and got such a connect that it was hard to return it back?

It was much hard to me, even harder than returning the trials from WomWorld.. coz it was something that I bought myself. It was holding my own greed to give my brother the thing that was better than even what I had.

It was a DATE in one of its kind, a device that is mine, but still not mine and I was set to not buy another, just for sake of variety. Am I right?


My Phone no. 12: A strange date with Nokia 7230 was recent happening in my Nokia Experience. People Nokia72301 knowing me could easily predict that I never would have gone a S40 now, but it was the dilemma of holding the purchase of any new phone before Nokia N8 or MeeGo phone arrives.

A S40 could never satisfy the needs of someone who might have played such high end devices as I mentioned earlier, but for a phone for calls and SMS, Nokia 7230 was much more than enough. Even I was able to use it for tweeting via Snaptu and chatting via eBuddy. What more one could have wanted from a device of 5.7 k INR?

Probably it was a date that I wont remember for long on technical reasons, but some personal reasons mark this one as a major part of my life. Will not mention the reasons, but still its a DATE that I will remember ever …


So, here this is my story .. my dates … my Nokia journey … which will be continued for sure … no matter what happens … Nokia will rule …

Why I deserve to get phone from Nokia more than others? Don’t know … probably, when you google for “screwed Nitish” or “buy a phone nitish”, then the post is first of result, where I have explained that why no one wishes to put money on others, when almighty itself is coming .. Nokia N8. But still the pain of being without a decent Smartphone coupled with prolonged wait is killing … may be this competition a hope..

Still when I get those old boxes of my lost phones, then it triggers a nostalgia and same with DHL bags still lying here and there.

Thanks WomWorld … this was something that I always wished to share, but in which way.. probably I was unable to come up on my own… thanks for the idea. Hope will be able to say the bigger thanks once again 😉 [Hint: N97 Mini]

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Nokia 7230 – Surprise member to family

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As I wrote sometimes back, many of us passing through a time, where we are stuck about buying any phone. While buying any Smartphone was a complete no go, my problem was solved by one friend of mine, who decided to lend her newly bought Nokia 7230 to me for a while.

 

Finding a full blown review for a S40 device is hard in age of apps and computer like specs phones, but sometimes one should think that not everyone wants a 10k device with loads of advanced features. Many wants just a phone that works well for calls, SMS, Music and if possible then some more … Nokia 7230 somewhat seems to filling the same gap. A 3G successor for Cheap Nokia Supernova 7210 with a slider under Rs. 6, 000/- may sure attract some numbers.


Hard to write on a foreign ground, but trying to … one shouldn’t consider this a review but a rant only…

The retail box: The retail box was holding kind of no surprise. The usual Charger, Data cable, Phone, simple headsets and A manual that’s it.

The 2GB memory card was fitted inside and the battery was 860 mAh, not the greatest, but fair enough for the deal. The price was Rs. 5800/-

Design: Sometimes its hard to know what exactly might interest to customers and even if people accusing Nokia about their OS, I really feel that at least with the variety of hardware design, Nokia is something that is kind of unbeatable. If you skip iPhone like looks, then Nokia probably have handsets in each design. That’s only Nokia that could build such solid sliding phones, otherwise, after Samsung SGH-330 experience, I was away from sliders forever.

On the sheet of measures, a size 10 x 5.5 cm, when folded sure finds affection for it, specially when it has a metallic border covering all the sides. Though the plastic back and its way of opening and closing kind of freaks me out, honestly speaking, neither do I feel cool about the cap over mini USB port coz of the way it opens and close. Things which has to be opened and closed many a times, should be made in a way that will not harm in long run.

I admit, it delights me whenever I see a fresh device with a Nokia logo with white background as the one in the picture above and Nokia’s T9 seems to be running in our DNA that with any new set of Nokia we feel like home. Keys looked similar to what I seen in Nokia 5310 XpressMusic, but with more comfort and grip as you can see yourself. Though power off keys and right menu keys sometimes may annoy you, if you get the phone accidently switch off while you try to press Left Menu Key.

The overall design focus on keeping it minimal, but I am very glad that they managed to put the camera button on side, which many manufacturer just prefer to miss. Other than Camera button, we just find one charging hole, one 3.5mm jack and the miniUSB port; all three place on the top of the device. Nothing else …

I wont call the device exactly slim (I seen 5310, if you remember), but its still slimmer than Nokia N82 in width 14.8mm to be precise and build is truly solid for this price point.

One of my friend commented that why not to make the sliding back made of mirror kind of element? Will have another heads up for females… good idea!! isn’t it?


Features: First talk about Hardware. A 2.4” TFT capable of displaying 16M colors.. kind of standard for a Nokia, though the way, S40 is making use of it, seems not of my taste at least. Such big fonts and icons, when the screen could have displayed small icons and menu with more ease. Something was sure wrong, when folks at Nokia were designing theme for this handset. See that big clock and network/ battery icons ..

While the handset been promoted as one of the cheapest 3G sets around, I will warn people coming this way for faster internet. This one has no HSPDA means a max of some 372 kbps speed, not that 2-3 mbps, we usually enjoy on handsets like E52 or C5 and that’s really not cool. Though I understand the limitation of this price point too and you can’t blame Nokia for this.

We have a 3.5 MP camera here and though 3G is capable of supporting video calling, but I didn’t seen any S40 having the same capability in past and so it was out of shot that by any chance, this one was going to have a front camera. No protecting cover for Camera lens, no flash and not even night mode, but still the camera works very decent. Though I am not some kind of photography expert, but I feel the pictures below are good enough for a 3.5 MP ..

Though the retail box very proudly displays an App Click-N-Share, but I am yet to discover the same, which provides the well advertised feature of sharing your snap over Flicker, Ovi etc. I wonder that why it’s not part of pre-installed package and why we need to send SMS, get a link and then install the same.

As it targets to Indian crowd and specially Music lovers, the device is packed with FM Radio and very freshly designed Music player. Though no dedicated Music keys might make you grin, but at the same time, you loved the minimalistic simplicity too. The audio is loud enough though loud speakers on back sure annoy me on kind of lesser loudness than I expected. The software has a equalizer option too.. cool

 


Network reception: Let me tell you, in now days whatever device we run through, we never forget to take a death grip test of the same and without exception all of Nokia devices disappoint about this particular world famous feature, not even this under 100$ phone. So, there is no death grip and for the people, it matters, it has following supporting network ranges

2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network UMTS 900 / 2100 / 1900

Call clarity is superb for Indian conditions, better than even Nokia N82 as its kind of too loud than N82’s decent sound, but loud speakers suck, don’t know why.


Software: Symbian S40, either you like it or hate it or better to say, you can like it, if haven’t seen any of Smartphone OS ever, if you have seen one, then you are spoiled. Though S40 amazingly optimizes your device for longer music playback and talk time, you really wonder that how people were managing with iPhone, when there was no multi-tasking.

Only Radio and Music player seems to be something that could be left running in background otherwise, you need to close whatever you might be doing, when some SMS come and you wish to read. Nothing like that you minimize the web page you were viewing or pause the game you were playing, went to read SMS and came back to resume. Nope!!! either SMS or the work you were doing, that’s our S40, low end devices made for people, who want their phones for call, SMS, Music and photos only.

There is Ovi Store in the device, there is Nokia IM, there is Nokia Messaging for a complete surprise and also Ovi Maps 3.0 (which are amazingly fast in startup) even if device doesn’t has GPS or A-GPS chip. What disappointed me if no support for Ovi Contacts, which is a complete shame as even older devices like Nokia 5310 XpressMusic now featuring the same. Why Nokia 7230 was denied the due, even on having the same OS S40, only they knows.

Maps not only provides the option of searching routes offline, but also enable contacts to have Find on map option, if some address is written in contacts.

Though bigger fonts size annoy big time, contacts has options like displaying Name and number in grid or name and pics. I wonder some day S40 will find social integration as well.

Calender has the same format as usual and we got Nokia Life Tools included in offering …


Apps to install: Not much of multi-tasking here, so not much you can think of, but I managed two of great apps Sanptu, which I preferred for Twitter and Ebuddy as Nokia IM not showing Gtalk service without proper bandwidth. Rest we already have Opera mini here, so nothing in essential list remains pending. Though I add my own Ovi App, Cricket 20-20 in my favourites as usual.


Lamination: Not sure that many guys love it or not, but it might be good idea to get your device laminated after buying, cost was Rs. 130/- to me, but the man did a very decent job. Check out the pictures given below …

Note: All pics here are courtesy my Nokia N82

So, this was some sort of walkthrough, I taken with the device.. my recommendations are still in favour of strictly S60 only, either 5233 in Rs. 6, 500/- or C5 in Rs. 7800/- must be a choice for buyers. Sure if anyone wishes to suggest something different, I am all for it.